tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post5530349180688227173..comments2023-10-10T10:43:44.424-04:00Comments on cheaper than therapy: a warning to EmergentDJ Wordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14597363296679699935noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-5978296455443742192009-06-17T09:19:46.895-04:002009-06-17T09:19:46.895-04:00I responded to Mike via email. I felt it best. Mik...I responded to Mike via email. I felt it best. Mike- if you did not get it, let me know.<br /><br />i will put this. I am sorry to be a prophet of doom. think of me as the guy seeing you walking close to the edge of a cliff. I am saying, "stop. get away from the cliff." Now I don't see what is over the cliff.<br /><br />It could be a small drop that will get you a bit dirty. It could be a 1000 foot drop. If it is a small drop.. I am sorry for the dire warning.<br /><br /><br />To anyone else that reads this... I have responded that yes I think there should be a serious reaching out to those that have been disenfranchised by the DC event and subsequent conversation. <br /><br /><br />To anyone that is offended by my tone and tenor, I am sorry. I know this about myself. Please look at the warning I give to my readers on this blog. It is from Wendell berry and has been there since the beginning...<br /><br />"Do not think me gentle because I speak in praise of gentleness, or elegant because I honor the grace that keeps this world. I am a man crude as any, gross of speech, intolerant, stubborn, angry, full of fits and furies. That I may have spoken well at times, is not natural. A wonder is what it is."<br /><br />At least I am being consistent, huh?DJ Wordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14597363296679699935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-76021714972238253712009-06-17T01:33:39.609-04:002009-06-17T01:33:39.609-04:00Rick, I'm really trying, but I'm honestly ...Rick, I'm really trying, but I'm honestly at a loss to understand how you want me to read you on this whole emergent/disappointment thread. <br /><br />First, you offer a post against bullying, where you call out people and vociforously argue with them in the comments section. Then, you call for a kinder, gentler internet with a quite angry tone and tenor. <br /><br />Now, you're offering a general warning of doom, a curt "I told you so!", and a vague claim that "People are talking to me about problems..." What is anyone supposed to do about these unnamed problems? Should we assign someone to chase down the disaffected people out on the internet (whoever they might be, and whatever their complaint)? Would that even be effective? Should that be what EV is about? What is preventing people from sharing their voice, and/or starting up whatever they'd like to start up instead?<br /><br />Finally and most importantly, I really enjoyed smoking a cigar with you on a rainy night in St. Pete a few weeks back. I will treasure that more than any Boston baseball tickets on opening day. In fact, I wish we were back there right now, so I could understand what you're talking about here. Thanks for being my friend, and thanks for caring about EV (no matter how much you claim to not care ;-)Mike Stavlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00834095663011794120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-53268120993129809652009-06-16T18:46:48.780-04:002009-06-16T18:46:48.780-04:00HERETIC!!!!
Seriously, by its nature doesn't ...HERETIC!!!!<br /><br />Seriously, by its nature doesn't Emergent need to keep splintering to prevent it from becoming a large institution? The true test will be if the basic charter of the group transcends to the splinter groups. <br /><br />To your point, time's a wastin' to deal with the petty social stuff.<br /><br />Peace,<br /><br />RonRDFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09958563733886646663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-37148649544102825222009-06-16T13:25:05.559-04:002009-06-16T13:25:05.559-04:00Apart from the gentle "I told you so" in...Apart from the gentle "I told you so" in your post, which seems a little excessive, I still see some positives in where the Emergent coalition finds itself. Progressive evangelicals, charismatics, intentional communities, and a host of other offshoots of Christianity have all seen themselves as new and separate movements. Where they've made their greatest impact, though, is when they influence their "parent" traditions, either by remaining separate or folding back into the established body. I said it in my own post, and I'll say it again: I'm not disappointed in either the past achievements or future prospects of Emergent-ness. See: http://ministryintheuk.blogspot.com/2009/06/im-not-disappointed.htmlRev. John A. D'Eliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03460378542471421949noreply@blogger.com