tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post112293128023806994..comments2023-10-10T10:43:44.424-04:00Comments on cheaper than therapy: Values Voters and the ethics Frist, Delay, and Dobson on Stem Cell Research (rant alert)DJ Wordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14597363296679699935noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-1123678975822140042005-08-10T09:02:00.000-04:002005-08-10T09:02:00.000-04:00Wanted to tweak my previous comment . . . .Yeah, t...Wanted to tweak my previous comment . . . .<BR/><BR/>Yeah, that's clear. Technology is a tricky thing, and I agree that fertility technologies require us to ask some serious ethical and theological questions like what to do with extra eggs, how many to harvest, how many to inseminate, how many to put back for implantation, whether or not to donate the eggs to other couples, etc.<BR/>Rog and Pam and I had some discussions about that when they decided to go IVF. Angie and I have yet to make that decision, though we are leaning more toward adoption than hard-core fertility treatment at this point.<BR/>This is one example of a concept I like in process theology (I won't pretend to be an expert on it, and there are things in my understanding of process theology that I reject). One of the main principles of process theology is that the more complex systems become, the greater their capacity for good and the greater their capacity for evil. Such is the case with fertility technology. <BR/>Personally, I'm grateful for these issues as it is starting to reawaken good ethical and theological thought in Christian circles. The trouble is, we've been asleep for so long on issues of ethics that we've forgotten how to engage these issues. God help us and guide us. <BR/><BR/>8:27 AMWarrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11972789807273159490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-1123676858538706622005-08-10T08:27:00.000-04:002005-08-10T08:27:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11972789807273159490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-1123522595087617492005-08-08T13:36:00.000-04:002005-08-08T13:36:00.000-04:00actually it is more of a question that needs to be...actually it is more of a question that needs to be asked. I have no idea or opinion myself.<BR/><BR/>however, we are quick to use technology for 1 thing and say it should not be used for the other without asking the questions in advance.<BR/><BR/>when we created the technology for IVF and such, the ethicists should have been asking stem cell questions instead of waiting. <BR/><BR/>It is more a question for the right that wants the technolgy for IVF with no consequences to be thought of (like the extra eggs or the desire of the scientific community to do something they deem productive with those eggs).<BR/><BR/>Sadly, I have many friends who have used extraordinary means (nothing wrong with that) without thinking through the issues related (that is where I have the issue)and the consequences (especially for hardcore Prolifers).<BR/><BR/>Am I making anything clear?<BR/><BR/>No answers, just questionsDJ Wordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14597363296679699935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-1123508811000892322005-08-08T09:46:00.000-04:002005-08-08T09:46:00.000-04:00I know you said you's rather keep these things to ...I know you said you's rather keep these things to yourself, but one line caught my attention and I wish you would elaborate . . . .<BR/><BR/>"I could rant about the effects of our desire use technology instead of faith in our decisions about childbirth."<BR/><BR/>Are you suggesting that those who seek out medical attention when dealing with issues like infertility, perhaps using technologies such as in vitro or even technologies less severe, are somehow acting contrary to faith?Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11972789807273159490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-1123104833491469392005-08-03T17:33:00.000-04:002005-08-03T17:33:00.000-04:00Like Bobby Bowden lecturing Phil Fulmer on maintai...Like Bobby Bowden lecturing Phil Fulmer on maintaining discipline in a football program.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-1123002964503956042005-08-02T13:16:00.000-04:002005-08-02T13:16:00.000-04:00Like Janis Joplin lecturing Kelly Clarkson on voca...Like Janis Joplin lecturing Kelly Clarkson on vocal technique.<BR/><BR/>also and along a different line of comparison the following was seen in the news today . . . "<I>John Bolton is to Diplomacy as Jack the Ripper was to Surgery</I>."jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07223648349703832539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-1122999914321436682005-08-02T12:25:00.000-04:002005-08-02T12:25:00.000-04:00Jeff,you are the type of person I expect these thi...Jeff,<BR/><BR/>you are the type of person I expect these things from.DJ Wordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14597363296679699935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4061650.post-1122983158225001072005-08-02T07:45:00.000-04:002005-08-02T07:45:00.000-04:00i don't know man, that kennedy/joel analogy cracke...i don't know man, that kennedy/joel analogy cracked my ass up. <BR/><BR/>i have nothing that eclipses it (at present).g13https://www.blogger.com/profile/13856920828414078560noreply@blogger.com