Obama’s Clove ban creates crisis in the Emerging Church
According to many sources, young emerging Christians need some safe way to rebel. They are not interested in experimenting with drugs, promiscuous sex or even real cigarettes, so they have chosen microbrew beer, R-rated movies, Coldplay and cloves. It makes them feel rebellious as they question their parents’ belief system, but they don’t have to go too far down the road of dangerous behavior or real rock-n-roll music.
“Our questioning of atonement theories and the inspiration of Scripture are enough. We don’t want to be branded as practitioners of dangerous theology and dangerous activity. We just want something to do while we are standing around outside, something that doesn’t smell as bad as cigars,” says Tripp Fuller, a regular clove smoker until Tuesday’s ban. This is confirmed by Danielle Shroyer, an
Dr. Len Sweet, one of the earliest proponents of what is now the emerging church conversation tells us that the importance of clove cigarettes to movement cannot be overestimated. According to Dr. Sweet, “Cloves are an integral part of the
However, not all Christians think the popularity of clove cigarettes has been good for Christianity. Dr. Ted Stetzler of the Southern Baptist Convention says that the utilization of clove cigarettes are a marker of the more Liberal strains of the emerging church conversation. He is hopeful that their ban will be one step towards the reintegration of
No one is sure where the conversation is headed. Some are angry at the Obama administration, but they will not go on record and risk excommunication. Most are unsure that it can continue without a smoke-able product that is acceptable across the board. Some futurists believe that the advent of clove flavored cigars will be the savior of the movement. While others think people should just quit complaining and take up smoking cigarettes. Says Jeff Gentry of Boston, “stop whining and grab a carton of Marlboro Lights along with some Big Red and chew it while smoking…it’ll give you the same effect.”
Rick Bennett, Tampa
- by the way, I am an agnostic when it comes to the ban. I don't smoke (asthma), but don't like people telling me I can't.
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update to original story-
When going to press, I was unable to attain quotes from a few of my desired sources. My calls have been returned...
A spokesman for Pastor Mark Driscoll of mega-church, Mars Hill in Seattle disputes the assessment that clove cigarettes are a sign of liberal emergent theology. While disagreeing with emerging Christians on theological and cultural issues, "Rev. Driscoll applauds the behaviors that set emerging Christians apart from its backwards predecessors. Beer, tobacco, profanity, gambling (on male sports only) and fighting are perfectly acceptable behaviors for the Christian male, in fact Jesus engaged in all of them. However, cloves are not wrong because they are cloves. Cloves are wrong because they are gay cigarettes."
While disapproving of Driscoll's language and characterization of Jesus' actions, author and pastor John Piper agreed with Driscoll's assessment of clove cigarettes, adding, "this is another indication of God's displeasure with the emerging church and its atonement theory, let alone its embrace of homosexuality. God is gently rebuking these young Christians by taking their cigarettes."
Rob Bell could not be contacted for this story. Apparently, he is writing a drama in which Jesus is a clove smoking girly man that loves everyone and judges no one. At least that is what the blogs are saying.
23 comments:
This is freakin' hilarious! I love it! Thanks Rick!
EPIC!! haha, that was too much for me...
I'm offended that you did not quote (or even misquote) me on this snarky (yet hilarious) post as I am personally responsible for shortening my life and the lives of many other close friends in my decade of clove evangelism. Years of listening to countless people tell me "I haven't smoked one of those since high school" warrants me to some inclusion on this satire as one of your close, die-hard clove smoking comrades. I'm so mad I'm going to rebel safely by smoking a clove right now.
funny thing is the quote I attribute to Tripp Fuller was yours. When I reread it, I felt it had some sort of theologian jargon so I switched it up and gave him the quote.
My bad for not giving it to you in the end.
ok, I'll take that.
This is amazing. I confess to literally gasping as I heard this news on the radio on Tuesday. So funny... I shall miss my cloves.
Sitting outside a Jason's deli in Raleigh with the shakes
looking to score some cloves. Hit me up if you gave a supplier. Let's keep the conversation going!
We all know how effective prohibition was. This is ridiculous and has me riled to say the least.
A buddy of mine sent me a link to a shirt someone whipped up on the matter:
http://www.zazzle.com/remember_the_clove_tshirt-235546584694177419
HA!
For the record, I smoked cloves before emergent even came onto the scene.
Also fyi, you can still buy djarum blacks (my personal fav.) they're just repackaged and calling them cigars or some such nonsense. I hear they're not as good (inside info from my neighborhood smoke shop guy) but still available.
cloves ARE gay and lights shouldn't be the only thing we smoke.
it is good to know that I get attributed theological jargon. of course i am a very big cigar fan and when I lived in North Carolina our cohort was known for having double digit cigar, pipe, and clove smokers in action. i guess that is to be expected when you live in Winston Salem.
I am seriously worried about acid cigars by drew estates........ please Lord not those. very funny Mr Rick. savio
As an Emergent Irish Catholic, I haven't the foggiest notion what this clover stuff is all about but I can assure you of this much ... a ban on shamrocks will never ... oh uh ... cloves, you say ... WTF? [1]
1) F = Finnegan
Hahaha, I love it! Reminds me of Lark News.
Wow Rick, extremely funny and insightful. I loved the caricatures but it didn't relate to me emotionally about the cloves at all because in NYC we're actually cool and not wannabe cool...I actually heard that most smokers of clove cigarettes resulted from the gateway experience of reading Relevant magazine.
Isn't Relevant that mag that is printed down on west 6th street?
needed to laugh out loud at the office this am. thanks!
Coldplay. *snort*
Funny sure is funny sometimes.
K
This is HILARIOUS.
And the clove ban makes me angry.
:)
I found your blog by way of Jon Herr's Facebook profile. Yay for social networking!
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sara your comment is either dripping with irony or downright tone deaf.
let's see...
damn, it's the latter.
go to regulations.gov and protest the ban
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